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SHAKSPER 2007: Upstart Crow
From: Hardy M. Cook (editor@shaksper.net) Date: 05/03/07
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 18.0322 Thursday, 3 May 2007 [1] From: Abigail Quart <arq2@verizon.net> Date: Friday, 20 Apr 2007 01:07:04 -0400 Subj: RE: SHK 18.0297 Upstart Crow [2] From: Anne Cuneo <anne.cuneo@gmail.com> Date: Friday, 20 Apr 2007 16:54:36 +0200 Subj: Re: SHK 18.0297 Upstart Crow [3] From: Philip Tomposki <philiptski@hotmail.com> Date: Sunday, 22 Apr 2007 15:05:18 -0400 Subj: Re: Upstart Crow [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Abigail Quart <arq2@verizon.net> Date: Friday, 20 Apr 2007 01:07:04 -0400 Subject: 18.0297 Upstart Crow Comment: RE: SHK 18.0297 Upstart Crow I know the Renaissance scholars will be able to explain every word, but the impression I always got was of a guy with the college degree being totally pissed off at the success of a smartass who didn't graduate high school. How dare he master blank verse? He couldn't have done it if the educated fellows hadn't shown him how. [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anne Cuneo <anne.cuneo@gmail.com> Date: Friday, 20 Apr 2007 16:54:36 +0200 Subject: 18.0297 Upstart Crow Comment: Re: SHK 18.0297 Upstart Crow My probably not-too-academic reading has always been that Green and a few others were furious because this non-university wit, with his Stratford accent and all, had the audacity of writing plays that had more success than theirs. Of course, Green would have found details which "proved" that he and his friends had been wronged, because the upstart had been copying their ideas, thus beautifying himself with their feathers. Robert McCrum (The Observer's Literary Editor) says this is a phenomenon one observes with each successful book, film or play. Someone is always sure the successful author has copied HIM. And the impudent crow compounded his misdeeds by playing those bombastic - but successful - verses himself. All of which brought him money that Green would sorely have needed. [3]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Tomposki <philiptski@hotmail.com> Date: Sunday, 22 Apr 2007 15:05:18 -0400 Subject: Re: Upstart Crow Everything I've read (except for the revisionist interpretations of the you-know-whos) indicates a general consensus that this is a complaint by Greene about the fact that Shakespeare, with only a grammar school education, was becoming the dominant playwright of the time. Except for Kyd, Shakespeare was, I believe, the only prominent English playwright without a university education at the time Groatsworth was published. Some have argued that "...beautified with our feathers..." was a suggestion of plagiarism. I believe, however, a look at the quote in context (the full text of Groatsworth is available at http://www.uoregon.edu/~rbear/greene1.html) shows it as part of a general attack on actors, who Greene describes variously as "Puppets ... that speake from our mouths" and "Anticks garnisht in our colours" and later writes "...let those Apes imitate your past excellence, and neuer more acquaint them with your admired inuentions." Beautified with our feathers sounds to me like an attack along the same lines, and since crows are known for imitating other birds, upstart crow is probably in a similar vein. Greene is obviously complaining that actors get the glory for the playwrights' work. At this point in time, a plays author was not usually identified to the audience, and often their name did not even appear in their printed plays. Greene's main complaints, however, are that of ingratitude and abandonment: "Is it not strange that I, to whom they al haue beene beholding: is it not like that you, to whome they all haue beene beholding, shall (were yee in that case that I am now) bee both at once of them forsaken?" Greene is said to have lived a dissipate lifestyle, and it is likely that in his last years both the quality and reliability of his output suffered. He may well have been passed over for a more reliable Shakespeare, who after all was a much better writer. The attack on Shakespeare makes more sense when viewed in this context. The condemnation of actors for ingratitude both precedes and follows the complaint about the upstart crow. Greene's bias against a grammar school educated writer would be enhanced if that writer were threatening his livelihood. Philip Tomposki _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook, editor@shaksper.net The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
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