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SHAKSPER 2006: A Wedding Ring Question
From: Hardy M. Cook (editor@shaksper.net) Date: 03/03/06
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 17.0110 Friday, 3 March 2006 [1] From: Joseph Egert <quixote46@hotmail.com> Date: Thursday, 02 Mar 2006 20:01:42 +0000 Subj: RE: SHK 17.0086 A Wedding Ring Question [2] From: JD Markel <tutscatluxor@yahoo.com> Date: Thursday, 2 Mar 2006 12:52:36 -0800 (PST) Subj: Re: SHK 17.0101 A Wedding Ring Question [3] From: John W. Kennedy <jwkenne@attglobal.net> Date: Thursday, 02 Mar 2006 18:16:23 -0500 Subj: Re: SHK 17.0101 A Wedding Ring Question [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Egert <quixote46@hotmail.com> Date: Thursday, 02 Mar 2006 20:01:42 +0000 Subject: 17.0086 A Wedding Ring Question Comment: RE: SHK 17.0086 A Wedding Ring Question Bill Godshalk asks: >But should we believe Portia, or is this another deception on her >part? Obviously she wants Antonio to feel obligated to her, and what >better way than to tell him that his ships have safely come to port? >Now he owes her big time. With her apparently limitless wealth, >Portia can work out the details later, perhaps buy him three new >ship with cargo. Sounds plausible to me, Bill. What I offered was a sunny Christian anagogic reading without shadows. The shadows, of course, include Shylock's alienation and forced conversion, Portia's racist hypocrisy and unpracticed preachments, Jessica's desertion, and the confiscation of Shylock's manna to nourish and endow Gentile prodigality. Who knows how many Shylocks may have been despoiled to form Portia's own patrimony? Such shadows have been addressed in earlier threads, myself among the spinners. But on an anagogic level, ALL subplots involve the hazard-ridden breaking of old and the forming of new bonds. These intricately interwoven subplots always move from the Old (Testament) life of World, Flesh, and Law to the New (Testament) life of Christian Spirit, Grace, and Lawless Love. The World of Flesh includes the marriage state itself, even for Portia in her role as Holy Magus. Bassanio and Antonio, by breaking Paulinist Portia's ring Commandment and imperiling the marriage, have in fact passed her test through their generosity of Spirit. I believe, like others before me, Shylock originally intended the interest-free loan as leverage -- in Portia's words, "vantage to exclaim" on Antonio with an eye perhaps to forgive, if necessary, the debt publicly and strangely, exactly as the Duke later hoped. Jessica's desertion to the Christians, however, so unhinges Shylock as to render his intent now murder, forcing Portia and Antonio to mercify and Christianize him. One more Soul brought safely, if unwillingly, to Rood. Joe Egert [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: JD Markel <tutscatluxor@yahoo.com> Date: Thursday, 2 Mar 2006 12:52:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: 17.0101 A Wedding Ring Question Comment: Re: SHK 17.0101 A Wedding Ring Question There is no double ring exchange in M - O - V The gifting is only one direction If Peggy Sue sprung a ring on Bobby Lee Asking for his hand on bended knee Such dissonance is not solved by law or equity But in performances quite fey and ca-a-mpy [3]------------------------------------------------------------- From: John W. Kennedy <jwkenne@attglobal.net> Date: Thursday, 02 Mar 2006 18:16:23 -0500 Subject: 17.0101 A Wedding Ring Question Comment: Re: SHK 17.0101 A Wedding Ring Question Bob Linn <linn13@bellsouth.net> >Joe Egert says, "Clearly she [Portia] is somehow mystically involved in >bringing Antonio's three lost ships home 'safely to road.'" How is Portia >"mystically involved" in bringing the ships in? I always thought that >she was just reporting the good news. That is right as far as the literal action of the play goes, and yet, and yet, and yet.... Somebody (Tolkien, perhaps?) remarks that Shakespeare should have had the courage to make Paulina a fairy, and C. S. Lewis has a poem, "Hermione in the House of Paulina", to much the same effect. There is something of that same flavor to be found in "Merchant" V. John Briggs <john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> >With the 1543 Sarum Manual (also reprinted in the Douai editions of >1604 and 1610-11): > >... et manu sua sinistra tenens deteram sponsae, docente Sacerdote, >dicat: "With this rynge I the wed, and this gold and siluer I the geue, >and with my bodi I the worshipe, and with all my worldly catel I thee >endowe." Et tunc inserat sponsus annulum pollici sponsae dicens, "In >nomine Patris": deinde secundo digito dicens, "Et Filii": deinde tertio >digito dicens, "Et Spiritus Sancti": deinde quarto digito dicens, "Amen". The "gold and siluer" is also in the first, 1549, Book of Common Prayer. Cranmer's changes to Matrimony were quite conservative, as there were no doctrinal issues, and the service, of necessity, had always employed the vernacular. (In my capacity as a Renaissance-faire actor, I once actually presided over the 1549 rite for a couple who had already undergone a private civil ceremony.) _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook, editor@shaksper.net The S H A K S P E R Web Site <http://www.shaksper.net> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
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