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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1976  Wednesday, 30 November 2005

[1] 	From: 	Philip Tomposki <philiptski@hotmail.com>
	Date: 	Tuesday, 29 Nov 2005 16:48:26 -0500
	Subj: 	RE: Living Characters

[2] 	From: 	Bill Arnold <barnold_pb@yahoo.com>
	Date: 	Tuesday, 29 Nov 2005 20:24:46 -0800 (PST)
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1966 Living Characters

[3] 	From: 	Duncan Salkeld <D.Salkeld@ucc.ac.uk>
	Date: 	Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005 12:03:43 +0000 (GMT)
	Subj: 	Re: SHK 16.1966 Living Characters


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From: 		Philip Tomposki <philiptski@hotmail.com>
Date: 		Tuesday, 29 Nov 2005 16:48:26 -0500
Subject: 	RE: Living Characters

 From Joseph Egert:

"Fine word "legitimate"! Let the Forum partake of Edmund's vigor and 
ingenuity. We need more upstart crows, not fewer. No more caged Ariels.

Let the eagle soar!"

More like turkeys, and there not soaring, their fluttering about making 
a great deal of fuss without achieving anything useful!

I'm not a scholar, but I joint this list to read and engage in serious, 
thoughtful and informed discussions on Shakespeare.  It's been 
distressing to find that of late, the lunatics have been taking over the 
asylum.

There are plenty of lists where anyone can float all the kooky, nutty 
theories they want.  If you think someone else wrote the canon, or that 
Shakespeare was a Jew, Italian, Ethiopian or alien life form, or have 
interpretations that has absolutely NO textural evidence, that's where 
you belong.  Please leave this list to we old farts who actually believe 
in employing facts and reason in our discussions.

Philip Tomposki

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From: 		Bill Arnold <barnold_pb@yahoo.com>
Date: 		Tuesday, 29 Nov 2005 20:24:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 16.1966 Living Characters
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1966 Living Characters

David Bishop writes, "The fact that Claudius is King Hamlet's brother 
intensifies the foulness of the murder, but what's sibling rivalry got 
to do with it?... As for how one brother 'persuaded his immature son 
into continuing the family battles', this begs a great many questions. 
Laertes, in some ways a mirror of Hamlet, needs no such persuasion 
because he believes it's a son's duty to revenge his father's death. As 
I've said elsewhere, I think the play's focus shifts, by the end, away 
from revenge toward justice."

Ah, the *art* of Shakespeare!  Leave it to a man of his genius to 
include foils and a comparative plot and comparative character to show 
the difference: Laertes is *only* interested in revenge, and Prince 
Hamlet is *truly* interested in justice.  The text rules!

Bill Arnold
http://www.cwru.edu/affil/edis/scholars/arnold.htm

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From: 		Duncan Salkeld <D.Salkeld@ucc.ac.uk>
Date: 		Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005 12:03:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: 16.1966 Living Characters
Comment: 	Re: SHK 16.1966 Living Characters

Biblical names from the Old Testament become common during Elizabeth's 
reign - thanks to people reading those Protestant Bibles, of course. 
Other names such as Susanna and Judith had become popular earlier in the 
century - they are names familiar from the Mystery Plays, funnily enough.

I think it is worth pointing out that the names Judith and Susanna were 
relatively rare in Elizabeth's reign (and Susan was a far more popular 
form than Susanna).

Duncan Salkeld

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