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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 16.1261  Friday, 29 July 2005

[1]     From:   Susan St. John <suzer22@earthlink.net>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Jul 2005 08:01:05 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging

[2]     From:   Larry Weiss <larry@lweiss.net>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Jul 2005 12:54:01 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging

[3]     From:   Marvin Krims <marvin_krims@hms.harvard.edu>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Jul 2005 14:54:11 -0400
        Subj:   RE: SHK 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging


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From:           Susan St. John <suzer22@earthlink.net>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Jul 2005 08:01:05 -0700
Subject: 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging

Why do we tend to see/cast the Nurse in R&J as a grandmotherly type?
Why isn't she 28-30, the same as Juliet's mom??  Is there something in
the text I have missed?  And the same with Paulina in WT?  She is often
cast as an older, matronly type...why??

Is it a 20th century aesthetic that equates these maternal, caring,
concerned characters with a 'grandmother'?

Of the other characters mentioned available for older women to play, how
many are kind/maternal/nurturing, how many are regal/cool/collected and
how many are evil/harsh/cold (and might there be another category I'm
missing)

And I wouldn't have included Gertrude or Lady M as 'older' so what are
we using as an age range/definition for 'older'? 30-90?

Susan St. John.

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From:           Larry Weiss <larry@lweiss.net>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Jul 2005 12:54:01 -0400
Subject: 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging
Comment:        Re: SHK 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging

 >Ms. Charlton's list should include the Duchess
 >of York in R3, the Duchess of York in 1H4, ...

And the Duchess of York in RII.  A small part, but juicy, especially as
it comes at the end.

Did anyone mention Elinor in KJ?

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From:           Marvin Krims <marvin_krims@hms.harvard.edu>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Jul 2005 14:54:11 -0400
Subject: 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging
Comment:        RE: SHK 16.1253 Shakespeare and Aging

Thanks, Edmund, for your response.

I think bowing to the inevitable is different from what I am calling
mellowing -- maybe "maturing" would fit better.

But as we mature, we accept the inevitable more graciously rather than
fight or try to deny it as we (I) did when young.

What do you think?


Marvin

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