SHAKSPER 2001: Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41

From: Hardy M. Cook (editor@ws.bowiestate.edu)
Date: 11/12/01


The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2583  Monday, 12 November 2001

[1]     From:   David Evett <MEvett@aol.com>
        Date:   Friday, 9 Nov 2001 18:41:00 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.2578 Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41

[2]     From:   Martin Steward <MSteward@mds1974.freeserve.co.uk>
        Date:   Saturday, 10 Nov 2001 09:58:55 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.2578 Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41

[3]     From:   Terence Hawkes <hawkest@compuserve.com>
        Date:   Saturday, 10 Nov 2001 13:22:51 -0500
        Subj:   SHK 12.2578 Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41


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From:           David Evett <MEvett@aol.com>
Date:           Friday, 9 Nov 2001 18:41:00 EST
Subject: 12.2578 Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2578 Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41

There is a lot of very suggestive material, theological, political, and
psychological, on the Richard-as-Christ imagery, in Ernst H.
Kantorowicz' magisterial The King's Two Bodies.

David Evett

[2]-------------------------------------------------------------
From:           Martin Steward <MSteward@mds1974.freeserve.co.uk>
Date:           Saturday, 10 Nov 2001 09:58:55 -0000
Subject: 12.2578 Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2578 Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41

Paul Doniger writes that RicII is "as perfect an Aristotelian tragedy as
Shakespeare ever wrote (a tragedy posing as a history?)"

Clearly the second part is correct, but I'm puzzled as to how precisely
the play exemplifies the precepts prioritized in Poetics... as, for
example, The Tempest does...

A more detailed explanation world be interesting.

Martin

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From:           Terence Hawkes <hawkest@compuserve.com>
Date:           Saturday, 10 Nov 2001 13:22:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41
Comment:        SHK 12.2578 Re: Richard II IV.i.236-41

E. M. W. Tillyard and A.B. Steel point out that Richard was the last
king of the old medieval order, ruling by hereditary right, direct and
undisputed from the Conqueror.  He inherited that order's sanctity. The
Tudors, by comparison, were usurpers.

T. Hawkes

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